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97 Wrangler TJ won't turn over

Discussion in 'Wrangler TJ (1996-2006)' started by football72, Jun 24, 2020.

  1. Jun 24, 2020 at 6:58 PM
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    So i finally got my turn signals to work.
    But now I ran into another problem for some reason it wont crank over I checked voltage on the battery and its reading 13.03 I changed the ignition switch actuator pin put a new relay for the starter and tried switching the clutch switch over too. I need some help. I'm trying to get the jeep done so I can take it to my wedding in july
     
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  2. Jun 24, 2020 at 9:30 PM
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    You may have the voltage to start the rig but does your battery have the power? A trip with the battery to the auto parts for a load test could determine that. Other factors could be a poor battery connections between the battery terminals and the starter.
     
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  3. Jun 25, 2020 at 3:26 AM
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    I'll give that a try but I just got that battery a month ago
     
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  4. Jun 25, 2020 at 8:08 AM
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    Given the age of the Jeep make sure to check the integrity of all the connections and not just the ones easily seen. Ground wire decay matters! Firm believer of having a good ground connection after my no-start scenario.

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  5. Jun 25, 2020 at 9:52 AM
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    1st is there 12 on the battery cable at starter?

    Did you check fuse #2 a 40amp in the PDC?

    Next we would check starter circuit, the relay in PDC is a fast easy access point.
    >> Can you use a test light and wiring diagram ?
     
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    Just got the battery checked and its good and I've checked all fuses
     
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  7. Jun 25, 2020 at 11:21 AM
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    will need to check circuit - at relay you want to confirm 12v at D10 and there should be 12v D11 when key turned to start.
     

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    Should I try changing the starter?
     
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  9. Jun 26, 2020 at 2:11 PM
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    To check for a bad starter, I would suggest at least trying jumper cables to an additional battery from a vehicle that is running. So if that works you have an issue in between the starter and battery. Or, it could be beyond that. Starting with the battery terminal connection. When you have to research out a problem, try the cheapest and simplest solution first. As technology improves repairs get more complicated.
     
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  10. Jun 26, 2020 at 5:43 PM
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    Well I just put a new starter in it the ignition switch actuator pin new relay cleaned all the grounds I could find cleaned the conections.
     
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  11. Jun 26, 2020 at 8:45 PM
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    That d11 is not getting 12 volts
     
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  12. Jun 27, 2020 at 11:37 AM
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    OK you have 12v at D10?

    This is a 2 person job.
    D11 will only have 12v when switch moved to START.
    If no 12v at D11 when switch in start position then check clutch switch. both sides 12v when clutch pushed down - yes no?

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  13. Jun 27, 2020 at 1:39 PM
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    Yeah we tried to turn it over and it wasnt getting 12v and I replaced the clutch switch today and it still isn't getting 12v
     
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  14. Jun 27, 2020 at 2:07 PM
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    ok my friend seams elec/wiring is not your thing no problem...

    Then the wires at clutch would not be getting 12v from key switch... we are working upstream to where the power is lacking. Let me get some diagrams for that ign sw.
     
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  15. Jun 27, 2020 at 2:46 PM
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    Yeah wiring is definitely not my thing and I apologize about all of this in advance
     
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  16. Jun 28, 2020 at 3:08 PM
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    Its Sunday I am busy but didn't want to leave you hanging...

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